Tuesday, June 19, 2007

Guantanamo trials unfair: Nuremberg prosecutor

Guantanamo trials unfair: Nuremberg prosecutor


An Iraqi Jew tells his story of Zionist activities that Jews from Islamic lands did not emigrate willingly to Israel; that, to force them to leave, Jews killed Jews; and that, to buy time to confiscate ever more Arab lands, Jews on numerous occasions rejected genuine peace initiatives from their Arab neighbors.
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The architects of Guantanamo Bay and many wars are the neo-cons AKA Zionists! Surely, they are proving once again, "Jewish history has been tragic to the Jews and no less tragic to the neighboring nations who have suffered them. Our major vice of old as of today is parasitism. We are a people of vultures living on the labor and good fortune of the rest of the world." - Samuel Roth, Jews Must Live, page 18.

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Guantanamo trials unfair: Nuremberg prosecutor
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June 12, 2007 - 1:04PM


The US war crimes tribunals at Guantanamo have betrayed the principles of fairness that made the Nazi war crimes trials at Nuremberg a judicial landmark, one of the US Nuremberg prosecutors says.


"I think Robert Jackson, who's the architect of Nuremberg, would turn over in his grave if he knew what was going on at Guantanamo," Nuremberg prosecutor Henry King Jr said.
"It violates the Nuremberg principles, what they're doing, as well as the spirit of the Geneva Conventions of 1949."


King, 88, served under Jackson, the US Supreme Court justice who was the chief prosecutor at the trials created by the Allied powers to try Nazi military and political leaders after World War II in Nuremberg, Germany.


"The concept of a fair trial is part of our tradition, our heritage," King said from Ohio, where he lives. "That's what made Nuremberg so immortal - fairness, a presumption of innocence, adequate defence counsel, opportunities to see the documents they're being tried with."
King, who teaches law at Case Western Reserve University in Ohio, also questioned whether former Guantanamo prisoner David Hicks deserved to be tried as a war criminal.
After being held at Guantanamo for more than five years, the Australian pleaded guilty in March to a charge of providing material support for terrorism and was sent home to serve the rest of his nine-month sentence.


"He's not an arch-criminal type, just a guy who was disaffected from the system," King said.
Hicks, who admitted training with al-Qaeda and briefly fighting on its side in Afghanistan, is the only person convicted in the Guantanamo war crimes tribunals.
King, who interrogated Hitler's architect, Albert Speer, was incredulous that the Guantanamo rules left open the possibility of using evidence obtained through coercion.


"To torture people and then you can bring evidence you obtained into court? Hearsay evidence is allowed? Some evidence is available to the prosecution and not to the defendants? This is a type of 'justice' that Jackson didn't dream of," King said.


He said the Guantanamo prisoners should be tried in the court-martial system or the US federal courts, under fair rules that leave open the possibility of acquittal. Three Nuremberg defendants were acquitted, King noted.


The Bush administration has said it needs to hold the special tribunals at Guantanamo in order to protect national security. Last year the US Supreme Court struck down the first version of the Guantanamo trials as illegal.


The 2006 Military Commissions Act, which set revised rules for trying suspected terrorists at the US naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, "sort of turns its back on Nuremberg", King said. "I don't think it's a credit to us to have this thing."


"The United States has always stood for fairness. That's the important thing. We were the ones who started war crimes tribunals and we're the architects. I don't think we should turn our back on that architecture."
Reuters



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Government 'knew of Habib Egypt move

Government 'knew of Habib Egypt move

"Islamic scholar's revoked visa is a sign of the times", Tariq Ramadan and 'Israel could become pariah state, warns report', The Guardian should be adhered by the Zionists and zionised governments around the world.

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Jews Against Zionism

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Exactly Bruce! Hitler's holocaust was a wonderful gift to "Jews"!! It was a reminder to them with a little message, "be nice to others, else, you will be facing this type of consequences". Alas! Disgusting lot refuse to learn.

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What is this ungratefull idiot whinging about?? He got a free trip home to the land of his birth!! As for the torture crap it does not stand up to scrutiny. For a man who had his fingernails pulled out and his fingers broken they came up well on TV!!

Cheers Bruce

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Government 'knew of Habib Egypt move'
June 11, 2007 10:55pm
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OFFICIAL documents show Australian authorities were aware of the transfer to Egypt of an Australian terror suspect, ABC TV reported tonight.


Federal Government officials have consistently denied knowing in late 2001 that Mamdouh Habib was moved from Pakistan to Egypt for interrogation as part of the war on terror.


Habib, who returned to Australia in 2005 after being released from the Guantanamo Bay detention centre, claims to have been tortured by Egyptian captors.


Cables and other documents obtained under Freedom of Information legislation show the Australian government knew within days of Mr Habib's transfer that he was in Egypt and in the custody of an Egyptian agency, ABC's Four Corners program reported.


One cable from the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) in Canberra dated November 19, 2001 - days after Mr Habib's "rendition" - stated for a fact that he had been transferred to Egypt, the program said.


Another by an Australian Federal Police liaison officer in the Pakistan capital of Islamabad to head office on the same date also states Habib had been removed to the country of his birth.


Mr Habib said he had been interrogated in Egypt about everybody he knew in Australia, including family, friends and neighbours.

Source: Free America Now

Appeal of a father to the world

Appeal of a father to the world


'Israel: Suicide Nation?' and 'Among the Settlers' by Jeffrey Goldberg tells us why they will destroy Israel.


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What is a "Semite"?...the common definition:
1. A member of a group of Semitic speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians.
2. A Jew.
3. Bible. A descendant of Shem.

Jews Against Zionism


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Bruce the Goose,

I am impressed with your wisdom.
Furthermore, it tells me, the quote below is correct!

"The Jews have a disproportionate number of mental defectives, idiots, and imbeciles." - Dr. Maurice Fishburg, Eugenic Factors in Jewish Life.

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You would not know the truth if it kicked you in the arse!!
Cheers Bruce

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Please remove your prejudice and bigotry. Else, the gas chamber will haunt you. Trust me, it is the truth!



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The only high level discussions you have been party to knucklehead is when you climb up a ladder and talk to yourself!!
Cheers Bruce



--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "union_faruque" wrote:Re: Appeal of a father to the world


I have attended a few high-level discussion forums regarding the Kashmir issue. My position was then and is now to resolve the dispute peacefully. I also profess both countries should be spending their hard earned money for food, education, medicine and housing - not for guns and bullets. I also advocate for free movement of people and goods between boarders of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Burma etc similar to European Union arrangement.

Remember, the Europeans used to butch each other for no reason whatsoever and they used to be very poor. However, since they decided to stop killing each other and organised a peace based economy – they are happier and reacher. Surely, rest of us can follow a peace based economy and society. It is very easy.


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Hi,This appeal was originally meant for Indian Citizens. Since it is pertinent for everyone, hence posting it here.Even if you do not agree and do not want to sign. Suggest that you read it.
Regards,
Sanjay

*****************************************Dear Friends,I have just read and signed the online petition:"Appeal of Capt. Kalia's father to all Indian Citizens due to the cruelty of Pakistan Army."hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition service, at:http://www.PetitionOnline.com/LtKalia/

I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider signing yourself.Best wishes,Sanjay Pandey


Source: Free America Now